# Yes , exactly . # Yeah . # Yeah . # But no it , it doesn't bother me . # I don't mind you know on camera , I don't mind being on video , anything . # Warts and all . # Oh no no . # I know # I can't see Mike and Robin making a cake , can you ? # Not , no no no . # Robin necessarily but just temperaments # Jill . # Were they ? # Mm ? # Mm . # Oh it would be ready mixed , yes . # Oh it's a tribute to the # Well that'll be a tribute to the manufacturer , sure . # Mm well I rem # Oh that revolting # That was terrible . # I remember Jill though . # I don't remember the mix but mm I don't know that , I vaguely remember now , yes but # Mm . # Was it ? # Mm . # Yes I've got a hazy recollection but . # Mm . # Jill'll remember . # But she was a lot younger surely , Jill ? # And she'd be a bit # Younger than them I mean . # Mm mm mm . # Mm . # I don't Chris # Mm well that's true of course . # Yeah I know . # Mm . # Mm . # Mhm . # Mhm . # But erm quite frankly I can't see myself ever getting given the same sort of circumstances . # Yeah . # No I # No . # Use a soldering iron or a blow lamp or something , not # Ah no , it's not really burnt , it's the way I like it though . # Must admit technically # Well yes technically speaking I suppose it is burnt but well done I # I can't agree cos I , that's how I like it . # Oh if it gets really charred I know but # if it's really charred that's a bit # Certain degree of grey blackness even but # Well leaving it that little bit too long , you know . # Remember Ro Robin coming home I don't believe it , burnt burnt toast from an electric toaster . # I don't know how he does it . # Mm . # Oh well . # Doesn't feel like Sunday does it ? # No . # I don't think , well . # I think it's much to do about nothing quite honestly . # I mean it may well be that we have to resort to some sort of er # Well I mean how do all the rest of the pond they've not all got bloody herons , plastic herons perched on the side have they ? # Plastic # Mm . # Mm . # Flipping ducks on it . # Yeah I know . # I don't think so somehow . # That was just # Art nouveau . # Mm . # That's interesting er that erm comment Steve made about the postcard . # And the bird of prey silhouette , you know ? # I can # believe that being rather effective . # What the plastic plastic heron ? # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # But that silhouette business , that could work you know . # I can see that working . # Birds of prey . # Oh the snake you mean ? # Yeah . # Mm I've still to have that proved to me to be honest . # It's a damn great snake # isn't it ? # If you think about it . # Mm , yeah . # Cat didn't bother . # No . # Are you sure ? # Waiting # Mm , yeah . # That's what I mean . # It may , if it's any effect at all it's very short lived I think . # No . # One shower of rain and you've lost it anyway . # I'd have thought . # Mm . # Mm . # No no . # We'll have to watch that pond though leaves next year . # Well this year of course . # Mm . # Well yes I could be a little bit more erm atten attentive to the damn thing couldn't I ? # We need to sca scrape quite a lot of that out but erm not all by any means . # See a certain percentage have blown in I think off the grass and if I had some sort of a # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Yeah . # Oh yes please . # But I think mm mm . # It was unnecessary wasn't it ?oh yes I'll want a bit of a hand then . # With the top window # I've left it with two screws holding it at the moment . # As we did ,painting the outside yeah . # No not at all . # I'm gonna hold it while you take the two final screws out . # Yeah . # Cos it's almost impossible to get at it . # What ? # You mean the whole frame ? # And the opening light ? # It won't be too bad , will it ? # Well there's not a tremendous amount of burning left . # There's only one skirting board and the pipe cover . # The casing round the other cupboard . # And that's it I think . # And possibly the edges of the cupboard doors , I don't know . # No . # Mm certainly want cleaning up . # I may end up taking them off completely though . # I think that may be easier to do rather than do them in situ , you know ? # Oh yeah . # Mm . # What two cakes and put them together , he's ? # Mm . # Mm . # I'm trying to remember , did they have any , the kids ? # I know they cut some for them but # No . # Mm . # Well yes . # No . # Er well not to me she didn't . # In the afternoon . # They seem very confident they'll be back in time don't they ? # Yeah . # Pick him up at twenty five to four . # Oh god I know . # You're telling me . # Where possible I'll sand down obviously but there's there # won't be many places I'd have thought . # No . # Yeah . # I can't get over that screw in the woodwork . # Good god . # I've seen dust before but and bits of fluff and rag and stuff but I've never seen a bloody , and a nail damn great screw ! # They've papered over ,I know . # I know . # Mm . # Oh the you mean ? # Oh aye . # Mm . # Mm . # No , coming back to the . # I would prefer to keep it in natural wood if we can but # all those splodges of white are putty . # Mm . # Unfortunately . # Well except to take them out . # Scrape the bits of putty out and put some filler in that will accept stain . # Mm . # But that's a fairly long job though . # Mm . # See it won't accept stain anyway with that varnish on . # Well I don't . # You can't burn that off though . # It's dust . # What ? # It'd stand out a mile wouldn't it ? # Well perhaps not as obviously # Well it would still stand out wouldn't it cos it's a different colour ? # Mm . # Not as # not as obvious perhaps as the white but # Mm . # Mm . # But I'll have to get rid of all that varnish before it'll take any other stain . # I what it's like when ? # Mm . # I may have to use varnish stripper . # Get a kind of varnish stripper for it . # I don't think it'll burn off . # After all the other fumes I don't think that'll matter . # After the fumes of the paintwork , I don't think that'll # No . # Not as bad as . # No no . # Mm . # Ah well that was a varnish paint . # That was a varnish paint . # Varnish . # No . # It is a stain varnish . # In other words varnish , with a stain added to the varnish before you apply it . # As opposed to staining the wood and then varnishing it with # relatively clear varnish . # Mm ? # Well I think , I mean they're very nice , it would rather , I'd prefer to , it would be nice to have tile there to break it , but not those damn things and they certainly won't come off and go back . # Mm . # One two three four five six seven eight , twenty four . # Two dozen . # Mm . # The pack . # I don't know . # I really don't know . # Oh it varies , the pack doesn't it ? # Think it is twenty five actually . # pack anyway . # Yeah . # Doesn't really matter all that much . # I'd skim over the plaster anyway . # Mm . # It's highly probable I'll finish up skimming anyway . # mm . # Well what have they done anywhere ? # Mm . # That's more likely the case . # Mm . # Twenty four . # Twenty four on this front face wasn't there ? # Mm . # Yeah . # Oh it's quite effective if it's done correctly , yes . # As it is now it's bloody awful . # Er no I'll give it a miss right now thankyou . # I'm a bit full from my sandwich . # No I I'll enjoy it more # later on . # No no . # Cup of tea would go down like a bomb but # Possibly yes . # Mm . # Mhm . # I meant to ask , oh # Aha aha . # Pardon ? # Right . # Right . # Pardon ? # Er oh yes , yes I have actually . # I'll have a cup of tea then bash on with my window then I think . # Well , yes because it is at least dry today . # But erm It's gonna make a hell of a racket sanding down afterwards you know . # No it can't be helped , no . # I'll probably have to get some medium grade paper too . # Cos I've got a lot of gr fine and coarse but # I can't think that all that much goes through you know , to be honest . # Obviously # Yeah . # No that's what I mean . # Some of the heavier banging and the , the high pitch high frequency erm noises like me drill and erm # Mm . # Mm . # Yeah yeah . # Well exactly what we have been doing . # Oh yeah . # They'd still do , yeah . # Oh rather more noise , yeah . # And the clatter of tea cups . # But then I was meant to mention , ask Rachel if she'd seen the photograph cos Mike didn't know about the two photographs that er Rachel and Louise have taken . # I don't know . # I really don't know . # Well you claim to be able to . # Mm . # Yeah . # What the hell's it called , a what ? # Something anemone wasn't it ? # Oh yes ? # Mm will it get it there ? # Mm . # Well it looks like the illustration doesn't it ? # Mm . # Has it yeah # Has it got the same number of petals on it ? # Oh yeah . # Not just the colour and the number of # Well it's . # I would have thought . # Must get some rose fertiliser you know too because erm I don't suppose the original plants have been fed for generations , literally . # Yeah . # Well those ramblers and all over the place , mm . # Yeah . # Well it's a good general purpose fertiliser isn't it ? # Growmore # You're the gardening expert . # Yeah that's right , yeah . # Ah ! # That was right erm it was the tomato fertiliser wasn't it , that was quite good for something ? # As well , er you know as well as the rose fertiliser . # Yes , they can use rose fertiliser for tomatoes . # But also tomato fertiliser apparently is useful for I don't know . # Look it up at the end of the book . # Incidentally what's this er operation that Jenny was on about ? # Er not Jenny , Josie was on about this morning that er Jenny had ? # Oh she had a caesarian did she ? # I was forgetting she had a caesarian . # Of course . # Of course , good god yes . # I was thinking it was knit one purl one on the stitches you know , but mm . # Of course , oh yeah . # Oh yes . # Yes it was on the radio this morning about that erm it is in England somewhere I think a woman's given birth to a fifteen pound some ounces kid . # Good gracious . # Tremendous size that is isn't it ? # Mind its weight , I don't know about the size but mm . # We seem to have a tremendous lot of seagulls don't we ? # Over that playing field there . # Yeah well I , no I'm generalizing throughout the year . # Of course not , that's true . # Yeah . # Mm . # Oh yes but I mean they they seem to concentrate pretty well round these playing fields for some reason . # blackbird there . # Yeah it's interesting to watch the different birds , the different methods of landing . # Some are quite accurate . # The others are a bit sprawling those blackbirds I think . # Yeah . # caw caw caw That looks like an old one to me doesn't it ? # Yeah . # Well not an old fella necessarily . # Hang on . # What seems to change ? # In what way does it ch ? # I'm looking from here . # I'm going along . # Er y oh yes , there in front . # Oh it does there . # See what you mean . # Yes . # Yeah # it definitely does change doesn't it ? # Mm . # Yes . # I'm not surprised they're poor . # Mm . # Yeah . # Mm . # Mm . # Mhm . # Oh you're getting back to the privet hedge and suburbia aren't you ? # Same # Mm that's why I don't want to clip that erm bottom hedge too cleanly . # Lop it down . # Yes I agree . # Lop it down but erm # Take its own # Mm . # Mm . # Yes maybe you're right . # Mm . # Have to keep our eyes open for a decent er path cutter , hedge cutter you know ? # No there weren't . # Oh new they are certainly yes . # Preferably . # Not essentially . # I don't think you need the , think it's a twenty four is it ?no . # Yeah . # They could be . # Mm . # Oh and you'd have to be that little bit more careful too . # Mm . # Mm . # And again , unless the motor is fairly hefty # it could conceivably be easy to burn the motor out . # Because it's doing more work isn't it ? # Mm well in theory . # A bigger area , bigger length . # You're cutting more at the same time . # Good god . # Stone the crows . # Cor . # Good gracious me . # No no . # What ? # Chainsaw ? # Oh they'll take er do a fair amount of work but erm I think , certainly as far as the hedge is concerned # Yeah hang on . # Hang on . # In a well established hedge like that # I would think er the loppers , if the erm hedgecutter won't tackle it the loppers will # Mm . # Er I wouldn't like to put er erm a hedgecutter through that erm that bush there . # That's a little bit too heavy for it . # Well the one where the hedge terminates and # That dead looking e well dead # Yeah . # Yeah . # Yeah . # Oh I see what you mean , to cram on the trailer . # Yes . # Yes yes . # Er combination of both I should think . # I , well I'm not too concerned about that anyway . # I can use the loppers . # If we were doing it seven days a week , fair enough , you'd probably need a chainsaw but anything , the loppers or the handsaw . # No . # No no no no not the really not the thick ones # But erm # But you see we don't really need a chainsaw do we ? # No . # No . # No . # To hire one possibly for a specific specific job but # Not very dear . # What erm chainsaws ? # I think last time I looked at the hire list , price , price list # I think about five six quid a day something like that , they were last year . # Mm . # Oh it isn't bad if you've got a lot of erm chainsaw work to do . # That can be done in a day you know . # Mm . # Now whether that's erm including all the protective clothing or not I dunno . # There might be a different charge for that but # Oh the twelve quid's worth wasn't it ? # Was it twelve ? # Sixteen . # What is , well yes . # Anything that'll fill a skip , it'll be a skip . # And I suspect that'll be the smallest skip , I don't know . # Did it say from ? # What did it just say ? # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Well yes , it's probably the smallest skip . # See I don't see erm them shifting very much for that because by the time you've got a bloke out paid his wages , paid for the the erm skip shifter , transporter you know . # It might be a trailer . # It might be an open back lorry , you know . # Mm . # Yeah . # Well , you know mm . # But again on a costing basis I mean hourly . # How long is it gonna take a chap to load loads ? # Er I had noticed . # Yes . # Yes . # Yes . # I was worn out already . # What are you on about ? # I'm knackered . # Mm . # Oh I'm not adverse to having bit of help # you know of the right sort . # No no no , no no no , no Erm # A little perhaps but er I mean you can have people that are more damn trouble than they're worth can't you ? # Quite honestly . # Spend your time watching # Ah well that's straight on the trailer , yeah . # Well more , more or less , yeah . # One or two things I'll be keeping but most of it it's just straight , that's why it's all piled up ready to go . # Oh that's not rubbish that's just erm off the trees isn't it ? # Chuck it over the fence and it'll go straight in , more or less straight in the trailer won't it ? # Oh highly probable . # Sod's law , yes . # What ? # Oh yes you mean the fact that they've been in flower ? # Mm . # Mm . # I honestly don't know Nina . # I don't know . # Oh I w , no I wouldn't do it today . # No , crikey no . # No . # Mm . # Mm . # Oh yes . # I'm going to investigate , see if I can't do a conv I don't think for one minute I will but it's possible do a conversion er into erm the box type . # Cos that way all the or most of the cuttings at least , go into the box wouldn't they ? # It's possible . # It might be . # It might sound a bit potty but utilizing that small vacuum cleaner and cutting the erm # No ? # Well i it's not a big thing , it's only you know what I mean don't you ? # That yellow and green one ? # No # It depends which mounting . # Keep the centre of gravity low and there'd be no problems . # Mm . # Maybe not , no . # Mm # It's quite possible but erm # Well I'm gonna bash on with the erm # Well er yes please . # We can do it now then . # Okay . # Right . # And hopefully by teatime I should have got the burning done . # Right , away we go . # What's it called ling # Mm . # Is this the rather uncovered one then ? # To erm # No . # No that's what I thought yeah . # Mm mm . # Mhm . # Mm . # Mm # Mm . # Yeah . # What , to mix with the soil or ? # Oh I see . # Mm . # Prick them out . # Prick them out ! # How on earth d'you remember that , prick them out ? # Well not really . # Mm dunno . # Not a clue it's # With being bush things you mean ? # What were they like , those ones we had before ? # Grew # Well the ones we grew previously . . # Mm . # Well edible wise ? # Oh definitely I know that but were they pleasant , unpleasant ? # Rather nice or run of the mill or ? # Oh that's right . # Oh yes I remember those . # Mhm . # Mm . # What were those go on . # No I don't frankly , no . # Mm . # Oh that's right . # I remember growing those on the roof of the shelter . # What were those ? # Ordinary tomatoes were they ? # Mm . # Mm . # Any particular reason , or # they won't do well ? # Mm ? # Mhm . # Mm . # Change of weather's turned the place into a hive of activity hasn't it ? # The change in weather , you # power saw , power drill . # Lawnmowers . # Strimmers . # Mm . # Erm oh yes , yes it does . # That chap's making a good job across the way you know . # Round the corner . # Well he's just rendering the the house . # He's a builder fair enough but nevertheless he's doing a good job . # The erm lives next door to Anna ? # Mm . # Last two houses ? # Oh yeah . # Mm . # Mm chap round the corner young fella , what maybe in his late twenties perhaps a rather seedy , scruffy looking bloke # keeps saying hello , I'm not completely sure where he lives . # He seems to know me cos he erm when we've been out and big smile , hello you know ? # He may be somebody's father or a kid's father , I don't know . # Who ? # Oh my god I don't know what erm oh well it was toward the end of the week wasn't it ? # Yeah . # Was it Thursday ? # Oh Wednesday it was going to be . # Wednesday , that's right w weather permitting Wednesday . # Mm . # Mm . # Well apparently they've got to have the loot in tomorrow . # Or by tomorrow anyway . # the boy ? # No . # No . # It could well be the meters have been changed to erm twenty P . # Probably have . # I did the lawn twice . # Once one way , cleaned it up and then did it the o opposite way . # With the grass being so long , you know ? # Oh it was , yeah . # Mm # oh this year definitely . # Oh I know it's a combined fertiliser and weed killer . # The only weeds we've got to get rid of really are those erm are they dandelions ? # Mm . # And I doubt whether it can get rid of dandelions . # really ? # Oh . # Was it we went to ? # With your mother I mean . # Hawthorn Cottage or something . # Jasmine House , well Jasmine House . # mm . # Oh did we go oh go on # Yeah . # Well christ well Mm . # What's on the magic tonight then ? # Apart from The Bill that is you know . # Oh my god so it is . # Do you know I could have sw is it Mo is it Monday ? # Oh yes of course it is . # Good grief . # Oh well . # Mm . # I suppose that politics will be mentioned . # Oh where do we go ? # The village ha oh that place where they had the erm used goods sale ? # Mm . # Mm . # That is the village hall , yeah . # Mm . # Oh Mm . # It's logical when you think about it cos being a small community # you'd be able to cope quite easily there wouldn't you ? # Why disrupt the school and shift stuff . # Mm . # Mm . # Mm ? # Mm . # Mm . # Well I'm quite decisive really . # conservative again . # As far as I'm Paddy no but the party # No no no no . # That's why people won't vote er a lot of people won't vote for them . # Cos they're considered a wasted vote aren't they ? # But erm you're voting for a party not for a character . # Although I don't know , look at Maggie . # Yeah I mean she for a bit she was the party wasn't she ? # Old bossy boots herself . # Well she appeared to have done yeah , mm . # That was on the way anyway . # If she hadn't done it somebody else would have done . # It's a pendulum business isn't it ? # No union , downtrodden workers and so create the unions and swing the pendulum . # Mm . # Well that . # Even some of the strikers . # I mean you've got no choice have you ? # If your union came out you were out . # One out , all out . # Oh yes , that's right . # I'd forgotten about that . # Mm . # Mm . # Was really wasn't it ? # It seemed that Smith has got a better image than the present chancellor hasn't he ? # Mm . # Pity he couldn't , doesn't come over better . # He may be quite an able chap . # Mm . # Mm . # No . # Exactly . # Power . # Mm . # Why do people want to be on the stage ? # Why do people want to be vicars and things ? # In the public eye . # Erm # No no no . # Something to do with growing things ? # No no no . # It was something to do with growing things . # That sort of came over quite strongly . # Was it ? # Are you sure ? # Oh . # No I growing things . # Still I don't suppose he'll be . # Kids very seldom are are they ? # Oh Major I bet he wanted to be right from being a kid , wanted to be prime minister . # Very ? # Oh extremely yeah . # Like his father . # No . # Steve doesn't . # Mm . # Yeah . # Mhm . # Oh crikey yeah . # Mm . # Mm . # Oh he's a very bright little boy but # You can't really relax with him can you ? # He's switched on # Mm and they shouldn't be can't , rather it can't be down to lack of contact I wouldn't have thought . # In part I suppose it's due to erm complete contrast of lifestyle between Jill and Steve's way and our way . # Could be . # She was just like an automated programmed doll , oh god . # Poor kids can't help it of course but # Oh she's a nice little kid , yeah . # Pathetic really to see her wa waving like that . # Aah ! # Mm . # Oh well . # She may change quite a lot , on the surface anyway . # Oh indeed yes . # Yes . # Certainly has . # Mm . # I mean it's most unnatural for a child not to be chatting away in the presence of grandparents isn't it ? # Unless the grandparents are a couple of weirdies . # Perhaps she thinks we're two weird , no I'm weird anyway . # Could be right . # Could be right . # Yeah . # Yeah . # It's not a bad evening now is it ? # No . # very brief this morning I think . # We were due for better weather today which we've had . # And then I think more rain tonight . # But as the girl in the post office said erm it's usually different here than the weather forecast which is probably is , the gulf stream # It's not too bad finding where you want to go # when it comes to looking for x-ray or path lab or whatever it is but finding your way out . # Very seldom they have continuing er continuity of markers saying exit , you know , or this way out . # Mm . # Not short on the emergency exit signs , but yeah exactly . # Mm . # I mean once you've got in . # But once you've gone down and turned left then turned right and gone ahead # It's like a labyrinth you know . # Mm . # Mm . # Exactly . # I asked somebody the way out and she offered to show me . # Mm . # Oh yeah , cleaner , mm . # Mm ? # Yes I remember you saying . # Oh it would be of course , yeah . # Mm oh it would be . # It's quite a , it seems at least quite a pleasant hospital . # Quite a pleasant atmosphere . # Mm . # oh no , they won't of course . # Oh no . # What ? # Well they're often having intruders ,go on # Mm . # Yeah . # Oh that's right I remember . # Yes yes . # Yeah . # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # And di didn't she have to leave ? # Didn't she ha well , to get from A to B didn't she have to leave the building somewhere ? # Yeah I thought so . # Mm . # They're not too bad here but at Witham Withamshaw it'd be a different kettle of fish altogether . # Mm . # Mm . # Yeah . # Erm hang on . # I remember going late at night . # Were we collecting her ? # Were we really ? # Mm . # I remember that happening but # And that was Withamshaw ? # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # You said . # Oh yes , that's right . # Mm . # Mm . # Oh yes , that's right . # Mm . # Mm . # Yes , you get so used to having a phone at home don't you ? # Not too bad here from what I've seen . # No . # Oh well ! # It was a very pleasant surprise if there is one working . # Mm . # Were you ? # Jolly good . # W tomorrow is it they go ? # Mm go on . # She probably # Was it Carol ? # No it's not Carol . # I don't know what her name is but I know the one you mean . # The travel agency girl ? # Young woman , yeah . # Probably . # Mm . # Mm . # I'm wondering what made them change their mind over the er knock through into the garage . # Oh I'm not sugge # I know . # Mm . # Yes but surely they thought that through before they got to the stage that I mean even with the mortgage # No . # Before they got to the stage of asking for quotes because Nev had moved all his tools and tackle and stuff to clear it . # I don't know . # I really don't know . # They were due to get one . # Any time . # Possibly . # Oh possibly again i it's just possible actually that the construction of the bungalow didn't lend itself properly well to knocking through . # Well # Labour . # Well mm . # Oh yeah I know . # But they , they are a little bit inclined to what shall we spend some money on next , aren't they ? # Mm . # Oh ! # Fair do , I know but er it's up to them what they do with their money I know but mm . # Well which paper ? # I haven't the faintest idea . # One sheet ? # Oh . # I don't know . # I haven't the faintest idea . # I haven't moved it at all . # Not knowingly anyway . # No . # It's possible I've used it but I don't erm don't recall . # Never had an occasion to use , well the only time I've used a newspaper as far as I know this afternoon when I emptied the bag . # And that was # Yeah I know . # Yes . # Yes for the er # the two bungalows yeah . # Mm . # It is incidentally . # It's where I thought it was . # On the left hand side and erm it's pretty near the main road . # Oh you do ? # The area . # It is on the main road . # I don't know Nina . # I haven't the faintest idea . # I d I could only glanced at it as I drove past cos the traffic was moving fairly quickly for the lights there you know . # But # Probably . # There's not much of a difference between # No . # Mm , yeah yeah . # fairly tight . # Sorry , go on . # Oh yeah . # Where Whereabouts was that ? # Oh not a bungalow , a house you mean ? # Sorry , yeah . # Well did Carolyn say that ? # I can't remember . # Well Dawn thought it was . # I certainly thought it was . # But then # I don't like traffic noise . # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Oh crikey , no . # Oh no . # No . # Mm . # Mm . # Certainly not at night you won't get a lot , no . # Erm # Yes but it's noises you don't notice , if they're continuous then they become # Yeah . # Mm . # I mean that's one of the beauties here wasn't it ? # It's so peaceful , so quiet . # There's no noises to get used to really . # Apart from the birds and the bees and the # sycamore trees . # And Sambo flying around yeah . # No he just crawled under the door sort of glare ,glare at me and then scootled , shooted past , you know . # Shot I should say . # Shooted past . # He shooted past as well as shot past . # Mm . # I don't know because he he's never really been frightfully keen on me , that cat . # I doubt that very much indeed . # Get on . # No . # No . # No I try to him but you know but er # He's alright . # He let me sort of tickle him and god knows what but er he's pretty wary for some reason . # It may well be of course that father was a bit er all dog and no cat sort of person , you know ? # I dunno . # Oh yes . # No argument about that , yes . # Good nick # and well fed and # Mm . # Hang on . # Oh there , yes . # Yeah . # Well we won't be needing so many that's for sure , no . # I want some for the erection at the side of the pool there . # To take the waterfall . # Mm . # It's only gotta match the existing er # Not bricks as such , no . # Cut some of the paving stones # to roughly brick size # and use that . # As I have done with that erm # collection Pardon ? # Not no no no no no . # Not an awful lot , no . # I can pad out with sto with er brick where it doesn't show . # It'd look a bit odd with bricks though , I think . # Oh yeah . # And then we want matching slabs really don't we ? # Mm . # Wonder what do they do with old gravestones when they've er # when they've abandoned the graveyard . # Yeah . # Yes , they made it so it could be # Yes . # Oh there must have been some sort of arrangement , I don't know . # To , to cope with that though . # Well bear in mind a lot of them were very old ones and there are # probably no nearest and dearest left surviving . # Mm . # I seem to remember papers about that . # Erm that removal or disposal or alteration of the any creation around the grave was erm can be done at the discretion of , of the # parks authority or whatever it is , yeah . # Parks and cemeteries , yeah . # Oh yes . # Both in far more pleasant to the eye # far neater and er oh yeah . # They can get more bodies in too . # No I ha ! # No I just had a thought because there must be stacks of old grave gravestones around . # Some of the marble they cracking cracking bit of , yeah I know . # Should be for the price they charge too . # Ridiculous forking out a fortune . # Yes you've got , yeah . # Yeah that's a point . # That's a point . # I think they're rather thicker than that , the damaged gravestone . # Mm . # When you think of all the . # Go on . # Oh # I wouldn't say indestructible , but I know what you mean , yeah . # Yeah . # Yeah very very longlasting , yeah . # Depends on the quality of the marble too doesn't it ? # Obviously . # No I was gonna say , when you think of all the money that's spent with these very elaborate er headstones erm creations showing angels looking down on them , plonking at their harps and god knows what . # They look quite nice from one point of view but er fifty seventy eighty hundred years later what the hell does it matter ? # You know ? # Well if we get some headstones it'll be different . # Cor . # Er yes . # The mantelpiece ? # Yeah . # That one is I'm pretty sure , yes . # Yeah . # Yes . # Oh no that will . # No . # No no , it's not original that . # No . # You can see where the original fire surround was . # Look at the plaster work there behind it , above it . # Mm . # And where's the hearth different hearth isn't it ? # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # No I should imagine it's a typical sixties , late sixties erm well early sixties er tile surround , you know ? # It's not # Go on . # Erm # And our bedroom . # There's in there , no . # Not , no . # Yes . # Lick over . # Oh yes . # Yes it's good enough there . # There's between the two yeah yeah . # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Yeah . # . Mm . # For wallpaper removal ? # Oh yes . # I need to see how those steamers work , how well they work . # Mm . # Yes and Derek remember , next door ? # And Terry , he said . # He hadn't used one before , and he was a bit cackhanded . # So they must have been pretty good . # Mm . # Nice just to # Mm . # You mean it was working so quick and easy ? # Yes . # Yeah . # Yeah . # Oh . # Do you remember the old days when it was standard practice to put one paper on top of another ? # With the overlap . # You know ? # Oh god I don't know . # Yes . # Yes it probably was . # Yeah . # Mm . # Yeah . # But do you remember the borders ? # The edges I should say at the , at the roll ? # They used to have little marks to line the paper up when you hang it . # Yeah . # Down the # Exactly . # Down the edge # the name of the manufacturer and possibly the say the model like the that particular paper's erm category name . # But it had at about oh eighteen inch intervals , something like that ? # Little marks , sometimes an arrow sticking out . # When you , when you put the next roll on you married up the arrow . # Yeah . # Mm . # That's right . # Yeah but don't you remember when they had that erm erm semi-perforated edge on it ? # And you knocked it on the edge of a table ? # Mm . # Yes . # I don't quite know why they put that edge on in the first place . # Unless it was , in those days , they didn't have the shrink wrap stuff did they ? # Oh didn't th I was just thinking yeah . # Oh it was standard to , yeah a standard practice job that , yeah . # Oh yes of course . # Oh god . # Well this particular paper , you you've got to be very care # otherwise it crushes very easily . # Mm . # No . # It's not my favourite by any means . # What ? # Yes , there's a bit more plastering to be done yet . # Not a lot , no . # I want to skim that corner , ceiling and the top of the wall . # Erm # and there's also there's a usual crack between the plasterboard and ceiling over the door and a little crack running down to the door . # yeah . # It's worth doing . # Mm . # Mm . # Oh yes . # And there's all the burning off and mm . # And also I want to , while the carpet's up , investigate the run of the cable . # So it's # About ? # Yes . # Yeah , yeah . # I think it's a spur coming off that runs into the er But I don't think it's a proper imme immersion heater circuit . # Well it doesn't have to be . # No it doesn't have to be . # No no no . # No . # No . # Er yes . # Yes . # That would be erm the junction box . # Mm . # To feed I s would suspect the immersion heater . # Mm . # Mm . # Because y you , when you have your cable up to the junction , hang on up to your junction box # and from the junction box to the actual immersion heater itself # you have erm a heatproof cable called er systaflex I think it's called . # Yeah . # Er it's sort of a white , braided stuff that goes over . # Heat resistant . # So you'd need a junction box to erm connect the # Hang on . # There are a lot of pipes . # Erm # do you mean the one with the pump in ? # Oh that pipe . # Yeah , yeah . # Oh . # Erm # offhand I can't say yes I do but # Flat and then it comes down . # Oh you you mean in the room ? # Yes but I mean which pipe you mean , no . # Oh it's in the oh sorry , go on . # Carry on . # If there's a pipe or pipes cupboard yeah . # Mm . # Yeah . # Yeah . # Yes I know , yeah . # Yes . # Yeah yeah . # Yeah . # Yeah . # Oh it's not just for the radiator . # It's the hot water to the tap in the kitchen . # That's right , yeah . # Mm . # Mm . # Well again that's not original is it ? # The central heating system is er a later addition to the house isn't it ? # And those pipes were where the circs where the , the where the pipe run to the hot water tap in the kitchen . # And to the bathroom . # Mm . # And quite probably the cold water supply to the bathroom too . # Mm . # And I think not the kitchen , that's on the rising main . # Cos your stop tap is underneath the er # sink top there . # . But that one there is er fed , I'm pretty sure from the , yes it is . # Yeah because the pipe goes up there . # Mm . # And , if you think about it , there's a header tank in the loft . # the cold water from somewhere . # So it'll come from there across the ceiling # across the ceiling up through the erm cupboard # into the l into the loft and . # Mm . # So you'll have the hot water pipe to supply the hot tap # taps . # And the cold water feeds by the er header tank in the loft . # Yes they certainly could . # But at the time of building I think it was just continued practice from the victorian days to run it round on the top . # Mm . # Pretty sure . # There has been , or appears to have been , a hole in the wall that's been plastered up rather badly but above that housing , that cover # on the bathroom wall # the wall separating the bathroom from the spare room # from the back bedroom in the bottom there's been a hole about the size of a pipe # about three quarter pipe , yeah . # Or fifteen mil twenty two millimetres yeah . # Mm . # What a good # time we had a wash up and a cup of tea I think . # It's two and a half minutes to six o'clock . # Or eighteen hundred . # Oh the news . # Let's see if the queen's dead . # Where's the new oh is that the news ? # See if the queen's dead . # Oh yes I noticed yeah . # Well # Oh I wouldn't know any of them . # Mm . # Is it based on the contents of of rather the erm # people on the box ? # Oh crikey ,I w definitely wouldn't know . # I definitely wouldn't know , no . # up my nose it's erm quite erm # Not a bun but a cake . # Right . # Well what time do I remind you ? # Half past six ? # Yeah . # Well it's quarter past six now . # Mm . # Mm . # Well it wouldn't take me that long . # Quite a bit more today anyway . # Mm . # There's a lot of work . # But we , we're getting there slowly . # Mm . # you see the doors are different , quarter inch difference in size . # No it didn't surprise me cos they usually no , they put the casing up , the door casing . # And then the chippie erm cuts the door to fit . # it , you know ? # Very seldom you get it a perfect fit when you # just it in . # Fortunately it is the right way round . # Well it is more or less . # No . # No . # They possibly are today . # Erm a lot of stuff's factory er # On the building site , yeah . # Mm . # Yeah . # What ? # Oh she said a few days ago about some bungalow or something he's he's helping to build . # He , he's a brickie isn't he ? # Yes that's right . # Mm . # Mm . # I haven't the faintest idea . # Not the faintest . # yeah . # I'd have thought he's going to find it extremely difficult down here to find a job . # Of any sort . # Never mind just in the building trade . # Well he's got all his mates . # And he er I don't think he's got the confidence to . # No . # Mm . # See I did see there's that place erm erm oh it's going , it's Tearscross direction . # Erm # they advert # Well , they advertise in the paper every week . # Advertise carpenters and joiners . # But # Mhm . # Mm . # Mm . # Well he # See hang on no no no . # The job's been never finished never will be finished with the corporation on it . # It's amazing . # Specially there . # Oh the shopfitting and mm mm mm . # Mhm . # Mhm . # Oh to be fair to him , yes he has . # He's been very quick at that . # No , precisely . # No . # No . # I would have thought so . # Yes . # I would have thought so . # No . # Oh he'd never do it . # It's ridiculous . # Ah . # Yeah , can't # It probably was Swansea area . # I think it was , yeah . # Go on . # Ah yes but it was quite a different run you see Nina . # That was motorway nearly all the way . # And he could do it in less time . # It was a straight run . # There was no driving involved . # You just point the car in the right direction press the pedal and you're there . # It's a longish way but erm for Ken it's not quite the same as erm the A roads and B roads and # oh no . # Cos he doesn't really like driving . # No . # He'd never do Mike's job . # Well he'd never do Mike's job anyway but # you know , the driving side . # Mm . # He's got a big area to cover , Mike if you think about it . # Seems to yes . # Mark you he wouldn't crack on if he didn't . # No he wouldn't say very much about . # No . # No . # Oh yes he obviously likes it better than when he was at er at that erm what do they call themselves ? # Mm . # Oh a hi fi firm . # Oh no . # He'd sooner be out . # I'm quite sure he does his job extremely well , yeah . # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Oh yes . # Mm . # Oh yes . # Well # Go on . # Well you usually mm . # Er no I d particularly in view of her experience # I don't think she would . # Quite as much anyway . # She might have to wait a wee while but I think she'll get on , yes . # And possibilities for Carolyn # came now . # I don't we may be completely wrong . # But as far as this exchange business is concerned . # You'd never get erm you'd never get an exchange . # I don't think we operate that scheme now . # No . # No , no . # It's er moderately interesting so far , yes . # No I thought you might . # That's one , another reason I got it out from the library . # Erm it rabbits on quite a lot up to now . # About all the er astonishment , amazement the English press and public and the Swedish press and the public and the American press and public , you know ? # Push push push all the time . # Erm # Yes well of course you can only assume that what he says is correct . # He's quoting various er authorities on the subject . # I've only just started the damn thing really . # Well he that's why he wanders on a bit . # Erm keeps giving little bits erm It was when he was a child apparently , he claims to have been aware of it , you know ? # Mm . # Mm . # Oh that I don't know . # Mm . # He admits to wanting to be a showman , you know ? # A film star and god knows what . # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # You certainly shoot through the first few ch chapters of that anyway . # Oh yes . # Lot of repetition . # In effect . # Politics . # Is this based on TV then or ? # Oh well . # It's probably their own quiz game then is it ? # Or panel game or # Mm ? # Oh . # I can't think of any TV quizzes or panel games or # You don't think it is ? # And you haven't got any of the letters ? # Oh . # Oh , I wouldn't know . # Oh English , I do know . # Oddly enough . # Arthur English . # Oh yes , yes . # Well not really , no . # It's just that I happened to . # Mm . # Good grief . # and all that jazz . # Mm . # Oh . # H E Bates . # I think so . # Steer away from bloody television and we might still have a fighting chance . # Mm . # Mm . # No . # I haven't the faintest idea . # Oh I'm certain it is . # Yeah . # Mm . # Mm . # Still think something , probably it's about something but probably tied in with the er erm # Hang on . # The first letter is A ? # Oh it's not the South Bank Show then . # Erm A something E something ? # Mm . # Depends how desperate the need is . # Yes thank you . # puddings . # Well let's face it Mm . # The broom . # Erm # Oh for the back ? # Yes . # Probably . # Where else could we go ? # Other than that er rather expensive # It's laid out but the plants look healthy and they're kept in healthy conditions . # Mhm . # To me that Dingle place # I wasn't at all struck , no . # There were all weeds growing among the plants they're selling . # Yes , messy . # And it wasn't just the messiness , I don't mind that , but # They weren't looked after . # Mm . # No . # Yeah . # Where did we get that ? # Did we ? # Mm . # Oh yes . # With most of the plants it does , yeah . # Mm . # Mm . # Well obviously , yeah . # For the for the contrast , yeah . # Mm . # Mhm . # Mm . # Mm . # It should look quite attractive . # It might be a bit of a job erm keeping them separate . # growing into one another . # No ? # Oh . # Oh that's alright then . # Good . # Yeah , but they do grow out a bit too . # I mean the one at twenty seven # No no . # No no no no . # Mm I suppose so , yeah . # Mm . # Gardener's World ? # I haven't really looked at it , no . # I glanced very briefly at it but # No I didn't see that . # Some er excellent photography there you know . # Mark you , most of # There's a what ? # I've no idea . # Saturday or Sunday ? # Erm the left or the right ? # Do you mean where the daffs are going ? # Yes . # Oh yes . # Oh there you mean , not at the bottom , at the side . # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Yeah ? # Haven't we got some towards this end ? # Perhaps # Oh I see . # Mm . # If it's an evergreen , no it's not is it ? # Mm . # No . # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Survived . # Mm . # Mm . # Yes . # Yeah . # Mhm . # Yeah . # Mm . # Yes . # Course they will , yeah . # Mm . # Pardon ? # Cutting the hedge ? # Oh yeah . # But how often do you have to cut that sort of hedge then ? # Not like a privet . # Mm . # No ? # Er all I can remember a lot of plants coming . # But I can't remember # Oh yes she did , a label mhm . # Mm . # I don't know . # Oh I see # Yeah . # Mhm . # Mhm . # Mm . # Mhm . # Ah ! # Well , good o . # Well . # Mm . # I've come across a bit of architrave by the way . # Quite apart from # . # Erm . # So I can use that as an experimental piece . # , there's stuff come to think of it it's the one in the hall . # The doorway that's bricked up . # Yeah . # Yeah . # That's right . # the architrave from there . # Erm it's exactly the same varnish stain as this . # So I can muck about on that piece before I tackle it in here , so mm . # stripping goes . # Without staining , without what ? # Yeah . # Yeah . # That's right . # First of all what's the best stripping medium . # Whether it's gonna be gentle heat , whether it's gonna be varnish stripper ? # Paint stripper ? # What the hell . # And then see the go on . # If we want to change the colour . # Unless we're going to use a varnish stain as such . # But it's very , and it looks a bit crummy , that stuff I always think . # Mm . # See look at # Pardon ? # Well it's only what erm the architrave the arch there this side , that side and that one there . # Well as I say you can't stain varnished wood Nina . # You can put a varnish stain on . # Varnish stain but erm In in this particular light now I can see where they've put on thick blodges that run down . # Mm . # Oh what was ? # I don't think . # Oh no I don't think , I don't think it's from square one . # It probably would be varnished from square one but that's not the original varnish . # Shouldn't think , no . # I doubt it very much indeed . # Yes it is . # And do you know the old bog door , it's the same colour as next door's . # Or was I should say . # The same yucky blue , yeah . # Mm . # So if you look at the next time you're in the loo # where the handle was , look where the blue shows . # And that's that was the original colour . # Yeah . # The original colour , yeah . # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # It might of course have been a more acceptable blue when it was put on because it changes # Oh goodness . # Oh down here ? # Where ? # Oh Prestwych # Yes . # Yeah , yeah . # Paid a fortune for the damn . # Yeah . # No . # I only remember one # Yeah . # Yeah yeah . # Was it really ? # Well how do you mean ? # The paintwork was blue ? # What ? # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Well it's isn't it ? # Blue for depression and red for excitement and # What's a calming colour ? # No , no . # Well it's a change from black that . # They've got the furniture of course , yes . # That's true . # Mm . # Mm . # Well it'll die the death eventually won't it ? # I mean the stripped pine really horrible . # Isn't it ? # Course it's overdone . # It's blooming cheap half of it . # It is cheap . # Er no it isn't cheap . # God no . # Cheaper than # No , it's not . # . It's usually crummy wood . # Badly assembled . # Well I mean the one that er that er thing , what is it ? # It's it's rubbish , that thing . # It's rubbish . # Absolute rubbish . # It really is cos # they moved it out when we went on one occasion cos was the carpet wet or something ? # I don't know . # They moved it out for something reason so I had occasion to look at it more closely . # I thought , I was looking at it before , I thought mm . # Anyway it drew my attention to it and I thought god god . # Mm it might be fashionable but phoo Incidentally I wasn't far out with th the age of our friend across the road was I ? # Twenty four . # I thought he was about that . # Mm . # Bit like Eric's place in a way . # Mm well no . # Not in that se pardon ? # Eric ? # I don't know I wonder . # Oh probably , yeah . # Floating with his beer every afternoon , yeah . # Yeah . # Mm . # Most probably he got waffling on in the Royal Oak and that . # Gave the impression I think . # Mm . # I can't see our friend er what was his name ? # The chap that bought our house ? # The probation officer anyway # . # Erm I can't see him him getting very chummy with Eric can you ? # No . # No . # Well he'd try , initially . # He did try . # Oh yeah . # Mm . # He's a soft touch for everybody else . # Mm . # Mm . # He always meant very well though , Eric , in a lot of ways . # He couldn't help being a simple soul could he ? # Simple soul . . # Mm . # He used to swear blind he saw his mother standing at the end of the bed . # Yeah . # He'd seen his mother sat at the end of the bed ages after she was dead , you know . # Oh yeah . # Mm . # I know yes . # Oh yes . # No I don't think so . # I don't know I'm sure but he never mentioned it anyway . # I've got a very hazy , but I could be confusing it her with one of the other relatives # Was she short , dumpy podgy sort of thing and ? # Oh I , neither do I . # Auntie # Yeah . # So it could have been his auntie , his mother I don't know . # I wonder if John and John and er mm # Liz have moved yet . # Oh yes , I vaguely remember that but I , whether they'd actually moved or not I don't know . # Mm . # Which stool ? # Oh the tall stool Robin made ? # Yes yes . # actually . # I don't know ! # It was a state of chaos then though wasn't it ? # Oh god no . # Never again . # Well if we do we'll wait another sixty years anyway . # Mm . # Mm . # Well # it depends on a lot of factors really doesn't it ? # Or a lot of factors come into it . # Age group finances # desire to move for a variety of reasons , erm permanently regarded house in the first place , you know ? # Yes , that always struck me as a bit odd , yes . # Yeah . # Mm . # Mm . # Yeah . # Mm . # That and the obvious school problem too with the kids , yeah . # No it can't be . # Well I don't know about that , I mean with some schools it'd be a good idea to get them away from it . # And some areas , in fact . # I mean really desirable to move away from there wasn't it ? # Mm . # And privately it would be no bad thing to move away from where they are now . # I mean , well they're gonna have problems wherever they go , but the on erm a different estate different type of estate , they wouldn't have as many problems would they ? # I don't think so . # Not as many . # No another idea ? # What is it this time ? # No , no ? # Oh I , yes . # Don't you remember erm # somebody on Gardener's Question Time answering that ? # Well either did I but # Yes # For obvious reasons , yeah . # Yes . # Mm . # How much er ? # lions obviously , well . # # Good god ! # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Open container with care . # And stand back . # No it would , it wouldn't necessarily pong . # Mm mm mm . # You can take it two ways , it'll probably get up and bite you . # Was it broom ? # Oh yes , yes . # The name of that particular species is in there though . # What do you want ? # The colour or something ? # Well er won't it be in the other one , catalogue . # I seem to remember looking at it in the other one . # Oh yes , your free giftie . # Oh yes . # It'll arrive no doubt . # Not for that sort of er thing , no . # They're certainly not quick . # And they probably haven't if they get five hundred certain number and five hundred thousand you know ? # It's not worth looking on the box for the news because it's , they'll be nothing new . # Mm . # Mm no doubt you will eventually . # these ? # What on earth is a rolled house ? # Oh no no . # Yeah . # Well it's a bit like these victorian wheelbarrows and things aren't they ? # Yeah solid . # How much were they ? # About seventy five quid or something stupid like that . # They're not as good as the . # Lot of weight in themself . # Bound to go rotten eventually . # Mm . # Well they're trendy so I suppose it's the usual afternoon run to Leo's is it ? # Usual afternoon run to Leo's ? # Yeah I suppose we want Mm . # Am I not supposed to be going somewhere tomorrow to to enquire about something or ? # Ah . # Oh . # Oh yes . # The estate agents ? # Mm . # Yes I think their office is near the erm near Iceland . # Think that's it . # Yeah . # You can have a look . # Yeah . # We always do though . # Don't we ? # Oh yeah . # Well I'm not t is the address there ? # . # I think it's on High Street . # They don't sh give the address ? # Oh good god . # Oh . # Ah . # Yes by the number I er it is , I'm pretty sure where I thought . # Going in to , or rather going up High Street in to High Street from the erm Freemans Way , you know ? # It's this side of Iceland on the right . # Mm . # Yeah . # There's no there's no price on there I presume ? # Ooh ! # Well it's possibly at the request of the vendor you know . # Oh yeah I know . # Course you will . # Oh no no no . # Course you will . # Mm . # Oh I won't bother with that cos that'll be too expensive , or whatever , yeah . # Oh quite , mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Or possibly # Yeah . # Yeah . # Where are those two ? # Are those # Oh , St Peter's Road one is it ? # Yeah . # Are you sure that isn't I think they were agents as well for one round the corner . # In Cromwell Mm . # Mm . # Can I have a look ? # Okay . # Yeah . # No , that's not the er unless it's another handling agent cos that's not the photograph # No of , no .Oh I don't know . # I don't know . # Well misconstruction about the use of a room more likely but where's me other windows ? # Can't see with these damn things . # Most attractive detached bungalow blah blah blah blah blah Come to think of it I don't think it is that one . # I don't think that's the one on St Peters . # No . # Mm . # Yeah . # It did . # It's , it's not in this week then , that one ? # Mm . # Yeah that's possible . # Ouch ! # This other one in Johnston will be fairly pricey I think . # This white one . # Mm . # Eighteen foot lounge job . # Fitted kitchen , dining room . # Mm . # Mm . # Erm # I can't visualize them to be honest , no . # No . # Oh ,one or two of them were they ? # I can remember one quite clearly that absolutely dog rotten window frames . # Cottage ? # Oh . # Mm vaguely . # Is that the one that's going up er but the auction . # Thirteen was it , she said ? # Or sixteen ? # I'm sure it was thirteen actually , yeah . # It may have been , it may have been sixteen . # Mm . # It can't be much for sixteen . # Coo not today . # No . # It may be of course it's on , on auction because they can't get a mortgage on it . # It may be too bad for a mortgage . # It could be . # Mm . # Down here you mean ? # Oh . # Ah . # North Wales ? # Yes . # Oh yeah . # Yes I do . # Yes . # Oh buying unseen you mean ? # Oh ! # I know . # I couldn't . # You just have to be a fool . # That people could buy a property unseen , well you know , it's ridiculous . # And the price # I mean just when you think about it they they were actually following estate agents when they went out to value a property . # Gee , god . # But now I mean what a difference . # Mm . # I find it a bit hard to believe what said about being the boom's coming ba not boom but picking up . # I don't # I don't know . # Well # mm very . # Mm . # Sorry , no . # Even if . # At least let them know you're not going . # For one reason or another , yeah . # Mm . # No no . # Never forget that girl in that bungalow we saw . # Was it the one ? # With the # With the yellow radiator . # That's right . # She and dog muck all down . # But I couldn't help but feel sorry for her . # She was quite a young girl wasn't she ? # Oh yes . # Yes . # Mm . # She knew damn well we weren't interested didn't she ? # She must have done . # She was sort of half apologetic # Mm . # I presume she must have done eventually . # Mm . # Er and a husband was a teacher er a lecturer # wasn't he ? # And that one we saw . # You walked in the front door and you quickly walked out the back door . # Oh strewth . # Well exactly , yeah . # Mm . # Still . # I suppose we might have had one or two lucky escapes there didn't we ? # By not buying up there . # Well I certainly wouldn't , but I know somebody else was getting a bit fed up but # Quite a few . # We certainly travelled around didn't we ? # Yeah when I think that's mm . # We clocked some miles up . # Not bad . # Not bad , no . # Not compared with down here I don't think . # No . # It still had a north of England feel about it you know . # Didn't it ? # Mm . # It was a big improvement on Manchester , fair enough , but er mm . # I can accept , of course # Yeah , yeah . # Oh the properties themselves . # oh yes , indeed , yeah . # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # The comical thing is one of the comical things is there's quite a lot of money go into some of those corporation houses you know ? # I know . # Yeah what about the income going into the house ? # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Yeah . # Mm . # No they don't need a big place . # No . # Ooh with all the space heating , carpeting , decorating . # furnishing # Well . # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # It's jumping about I know but I wish we could hear from Robin . # It'd be nice wouldn't it ? # Yeah photograph or something # Mm . # Hang on . # Which Ken ? # Big Ken ? # Oh well li # Oh yes yes # Er when is his birthday ? # Is it really ? # Oh . # And how old will he be ? # Poor old codger . # Is he as old as that ? # Good grief . # Well I don't think anybody does . # I mean # Remember Percy across the road ? # Not wanting anybody to know he's seventy four , # Well exactly . # I was quite surprised . # For a farmer too , ex farmer I should say , yeah . # Mm . # By god he's got some stuff # Ooh . # Oh I can't forget Alec . # Go on . # Yeah . # Oh yeah ,Mm . # Did he ? # Mm . # Yeah he looked older than he w he looked older than he was , yeah . # Never guess how old I am . # I don't know you , no no . # Mm . # graceful if you tried to really , yeah . # Mm . # bloody handlebars on his bike . # It's handlebars up his sleeves isn't it ? # He said I don't know . # put his legs . # I do not know . # Mm . # Oh well . # He was a sitting target for Mike though wasn't he ? # Oh strewth ! # Mm . # G er go on . # She probably is . # Erm # Not in her later years , certainly not , no . # ? # Was he ? # Oh I thought he was at school , you know , bigger boy at school . # Mm . # Oh ! # Really ? # Oh well , mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Oh yes . # Yeah . # Yeah . # Mm . # Well th that was incidental . # Er things got that he could make his mother ,the other way round . # Mm . # Mm . # Y yes . # Yeah . # Mm . # Mm . # damn paint and stuff , cor strewth . # Ooh . # Oh I'm doing it outside tomorrow definitely . # Oh weather permitting . # There's a lot there's a lot more paint left to burn . # Good grief . # It's a worthwhile job though , isn't it ? # Mm . # Unfortunately it's # See that back door , had it been applied well , the paint I would have just rubbed it down . # If it had been like our door , the existing door it would have stood rubbing down flatting down and er then . # No , bloody likely , oh no . # too much to repair it . # Yes , it's a thought that . # I wonder . # Well where it's been hacked about # I'll see if those handles will fill that hacking about . # They might . # Well that I would have to fill of course , obviously but # that's not too ba oh no no no # Pardon ? # Mm the rest of the door isn't too bad is it ? # Okay . # Hm . # Mm . # I'll have a look tomorrow . # No the leading edge I can fill in alright . # To save the # Variety of things . # Finish off with timber . # I could erm and save the lock er well the yeah the lock . # Mm . # Mm . # It might . # I dunno . # It may have gone too far , they may have bashed away too much . # We'll see . # Which other side ? # Hang on . # No how do you mean the other side ? # Oh well I've got to do something with that anyway . # Haven't I ? # N no , no no . # Cut the bad stuff out and er put the new timber in and shape it to fit the existing door casing , architrave and # It won't scream anyway . # I mean short of replacing the whole door casing which I'm not going to do yeah . # Yes . # Hm . # I'd forgotten Josie saying it was er you know it was a wardrobe . # Made the wardrobe , ha ! # No according to Josie it was . # Cos erm I think she or was it Yvonne said to me perhaps I'll find me hillbilly lend me er yeah # Or perhaps . # Something like that anyway . # All the rough , rough sods in oh strewth . # Terrible . # Yes . # Yes . # Yes . # Oh yes . # Mm . # Mm . # And that's when you're being careful . # Mm . # Incidentally what er arrangements er if any , have Mike and have Mike and Dawn made for this er summer ? # Well wasn't Dawn saying about they're going to go to France this year or something ? # Well this is # When they were here I think . # Oh of course , yes . # Obviously Mm . # Mike has to inform the company obviously if he's taking the car out of the country , you know . # Mm . # Mm . # Aha ! # I recognize a bit , yes . # Go on . # . Why ? # Mm ? # Mm . # Well a succulent with the leaves being # dark green glossy # Well what did you s # Mm . # Who is it ? # Mhm . # Read on . # Go on . # Full flower ? # No . # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Look it up in Titmarsh's book . # Mm . # About the flowering . # You've looked it up in the Titmarsh have you ? # Really ? # Oh . # Mm . # Fount of all knowledge isn't flowing , mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Unless it's under it's ge generic name is it ? # Hello our friend , ooh ooh . # Mm . # That's squeaking and creaking isn't it ? # When you come in . # Good afternoon . # Just a spot of information with somebody . # Ooh out of breath from this hill . # Erm bungalow in St Peters Road . # Ah , thank you . # Can you give me the particulars ? # Yeah . # yeah . # It's the one right bang on the main road ? # Yeah . # And anything else up to about forty five-ish . # From about thirty five to forty five . # Thirty five a snatch back or the repossession type thing I suppose . # one of my daughters is er # Oh . # Preferably Johnston er but it really doesn't matter . # It really doesn't matter to be honest with you . # In saying that hang on , no , hang on . # It isn't , well yes . # Not necessarily , no no a house would do . # Er Milford # Johnston Arford Not way out , you know ? # Preferably three but two get by with . # Oh that one ye oh yes , I know . # We know that er yes when we were looking . # Yeah . # Mm . # Thank you yes . # Okay . # I thought it was going to be , yes yes . # Yes please . # Yes just in case . # One never knows . # One never knows . # Thank you . # I thought it would be # Well that's the asking price . # Preferably three but not essentially . # Two er one , if it's a two bedroom they're into the caravan outside . # For the spare bedroom , usual thing . # Where the hell's that ? # Yes we do , yes . # Yeah . # Oh which way are we approaching it ? # From this end or ? # Yeah , go on . # You turn right # Oh thank you , yes . # I see , yes , yeah . # Please yes . # Thank you . # I'm so sorry . # knock and shove me but I always get in the way . # Thank you . # Right okay . # Well my wife and I have only been here , living here ooh just over twelve months now so we don't really know the # Not frightfully well , no . # From Manchester . # Been # Chorlton or Chorlton cum Hardy if you want the full glory . # Don't tell me you were too ? # Whereabou # Stockport . # Oh or what have you yes . # Did you indeed ? # Road or ? # I know . # Did you really ? # Good gracious . # And of the two places # of the two places , where would you sooner be ? # . # Should have come here what # Yes , I accept that . # Yes . # Y you're absolutely right there . # You really are . # Yes . # Mm . # How many think of the credit column . # Precisely . # Well our milkman , to be honest with you , it got to the stage where he wouldn't collect milk at night to collect the cash at night . # No . # In . # Stretford # Mollyrange Stretford , Mollyrange er # I , I can remember Mollyrange sixty years ago and it was a very very different place , between you and me it really was . # Mosside wasn't too bad sixty years ago but now , good gracious . # Oh no ! # Oh the wife and I went around Mosside the day after the riots there and , do you remember the riots ? # Perhaps you don't . # In the coloured area . # They were smashing shops and burning cars and what # You could feel the atmosphere when you were sat in the car . # Disturbing . # Mm . # Mm . # Oh yeah . # Range Warehouse # Mm . # Mm . # Very good # value for money , yeah . # Yeah . # Yes . # Yes . # Yes . # I know . # Yes . # Yeah , and yet mm . # Yeah . # Yes I can believe it , yes . # Yeah yeah . # Well the the really ? # There's a friend of my wife and I she's , what age is she now ? # Well at the time she was in her very late thirties , schoolteacher . # And she bought a house in Mollyrange . # I didn't know about it , I didn't even know she was looking for one then . # Er we saw her one day she said oh I've got the keys by the way . # I said oh , keys for where ? # You know . # Oh I've got a house in . # I said oh , whereabouts ? # One side of the road there were three brothels and on the other side there were four . # She was a schoolteacher . # She'd no idea , very innocent , very er church , you know ? # Oh yes , father was a parson and # she lasted there about six months , that was all . # Mm mm . # Yeah . # Oh it's very patchy . # But it's interesting , Mollyrange , if you draw a line down the centre Pakistanis on that side and Jamaicans on that side . # Seriously . # Seriously . # Well we've wanted to move for twenty five years possibly . # But you know how it is , it's family ties and kids growing up and then they grow up and have families of their own , then you get tied to the ch grandchildren or what have you . # I've been pushing for a long time but erm down here ? # Well I have a brother-in-law living in Stainton He's lived there , he retired there some what , ooh fifteen years ago , more than that . # He'd been pressing me to come down here for a long time . # When I used to bring my wife # drive down drop her off at in-laws . # Cup of tea , turn the car round and go back . # I couldn't stand the bloke at the time . # An ex Manchester lion board of directors , very very full of himself . # He'd been used to having chars and minions running round him . # Took him a while now he's a very nice chap . # But now yeah it took him a while to calm down but he's a very nice fellow now , very nice chap . # And erm we searched over north Wales first of all but phew no thank you . # Extension really of Manchester in a way , north Wales . # Mm . # Then we er got a letter from ah my daughters , one of my daughters one of my many daughters married to a coastguard in Milford . # Erm she spotted a house in the paper , sent it up . # I said oh come on , we might as well go down and have a look . # And we went down , liked it and that was it . # Mm . # And regretted that we hadn't come before . # Oh seriously . # Yes . # Yes . # Right . # Thank you very much my love . # Oh indeed yes , that's right . # Well I'll concern it with my daughter first of all naturally . # Cos I d I hate wasting , I remember when we were selling ours , the time wasters , the people that had no intention of buying . # A magic cottage ? # Did I hear right ? # M A G I C , magic ? # Good gracious . # Well you never know , yes exactly , yeah . # Oh you've got a pretty picture for it ? # Oh it's just come in , obviously yeah . # Mm . # Obviously just come in . # That reminds me . # When we bought our house , thank you . # Thank you very much indeed . # Erm we had the original full blow up # from the estate agents . # And erm we sent it to well one of my other sons in Australia there and he was thrilled to bits . # oh you did very well with your photography . # I thought # Yes . # Just too late I see . # Never mind I'll come # I'll come back later . # Thank you very much for your time love . # Bubye . # Bubye . # Forgive me smiling but does everybody do that , fall over the step there ? # Same as me . # There's not much of me but . # Erm what if anything have you , erm these are enquiries I'm making on behalf of my daughter . # Anything from about thirty five to forty five . # Two bedroomed , no ? # Round Arford , Johnston and Milford # Have you ? # Good good good good good . # Thank you . # I never realized it's first time price . # Give me out a load , yes . # And we can browse and # Are there really ? # Oh # Mm . # Mm . # Oh look at that , thank you . # Very well oiled runners on those er # drawers haven't you ? # Bit too much # Yeah . # Mind of it's own job , yeah ? # Yeah yeah . # Funny I'd just been saying that , just been reading a book allegedly written by erm Uri Geller , you know the # and he claims to be er able to move things and do the poltergeist stunt , you know ? # Mm . # Claims to be . # Oh yes , yes . # Indeed yes . # He claims that's been done . # Exactly . # That's right , yes . # Some people can , yeah . # Mm . # Well , yeah . # In his last chapter in the book he claims he did a a beam me up scottie business and # Yeah exactly , yes . # That I find a little bit hard to believe . # One minute he was shall we say in Arford , next minute woof , he'd shot to Johnston through somebody's window ? # Oh ! # Yes exactly . # Mm . # That is pushing it . # Think think think , she says . # Think . # Er I I don't know Johnston frightfu er Johnston ! # I don't know er only be a matter of # Well possibly , I don't know love . # She might . # Erm Well she might well do . # You've given a goodly little pile here . # Yeah . # Mm . # A niece of mine living in tells me that it's picking up slightly , the property market . # Would you agree with that or I find that hard to believe . # Mm . # No I don't think so , no . # No , no . # Mm . # And , exactly , yes , yes . # Quite , yes . # Yes , yeah . # Mm . # Do you want to ditch me and grab the phone before it # Alright , thank you . # Yes . # Marvellous . # Good gracious . # Yes a goodly pile . # Quite a wide range . # Erm erm # Oh indeed yes . # Yes . # Yes . # You're going to an awful lot of trouble for me love . # Fine . # Thank you very much indeed . # Yeah . # And the stuff ripping out the front . # Oh I hate those things , personally , but still , there we are . # Matter of , exactly yes . # There we are . # Thank you . # Er yes , I s suspect they must have paid a lot of money to have that done too . # Mm . # Well , yeah . # in that case , yeah . # Er at this stage I don't think so to be honest with you because # Well exactly , yes , she can give you a ring erm or I could give you a ring for that matter erm . # expensive business for her , phoning from Manchester , . # Yes yeah erm no there's little point just now , go on then she's thought of something else . # Oh . # Ooh . # There's enough to keep me going for the week there isn't there ? # Forgive me for saying so but the lighting in here is appalling , you don't you get headaches ? # Don't you get headaches from # Yeah I thought you would . # Terrible light that . # Doesn't help with the dark ceiling , that soaks it up doesn't it ? # Mm . # What when the property market picks up ? # Oh I see . # Oh yeah . # Mm . # Really ? # Is it really ? # Good gracious me . # Mm . # Mm . # No sorry . # Go on , yeah . # Fine , thank you . # Yeah , I can post it to her . # Give her a tinkle and er yeah . # Mhm . # Yes . # Fine thank you . # Well yes exac thank you , because my wife writes to her practically every week # and she can bung this in with the er # Well yes . # Quite , yes , yes . # Thank you my love . # Fine . # Yes indeed . # Thank you . # Aha . # Yes it is . # Mm . # Right . # You can get back to you're er whatever you're getting back to . # I dunno . # Pretending to be busy . # Or are you busy ? # Drawing , oh well ! # Ma oh ! # It's getting more and more important as it goes . # I'll try not to fall down the step when I go . # Thank you my love . # Bubye . # Loads a money . # Mm ? # Aha ! # Yes . # Oh are we , have you have you been to Boots ? # By the way . # Are you sure ? # I think # thirty six erm thirty six this expires at half past four . # That can't be right , this . # Expires at sixteen thirty six ? # God it's erm # Well it's only fifteen thirty five now so Oh it is two hours you get for the er that's right , it's not an hour and a half , it's two hours you get isn't it ? # It could be right . # Yes . # It is right in fact . # Yeah we're okay , if you want to . # I , we can # Hang on , hang on , hang on . # I can run the car round the other side of the car park . # So it's less to walk . # And walk from there . # Why not ? # Well somewhere else High Street . # Hang on . # Pardon ? # Where will I go in there ? # Well you want to go to this other car park for Boots don't you ? # Yeah . # Oh you're alright . # Yeah , it's two hours . # There we are . # Oh yes I haven't got the strength . # It's not my idea of a # Yes . # High Street , yes . # No . # No no . # No need to lock up . # a P reg . # Erm do you find most of the old cars , more old cars than newer cars ? # Yeah . # Yeah . # Just out of interest . # Purely . # Oh . # Oh that figures . # That figures . # Yes exactly . # Yes exactly . # It's . # Exactly . # Yeah . # No it must have been just coincidence . # I no noticed the # Oh I see , yes . # At all ? # Mm . # Mm . # Mm ? # And they're a little bit over , yeah . # At all . # Mm . # Mm . # Oh that's very # Do you really ? # Er yes , yes . # Yeah . # Exactly . # Yes . # Yes . # Yeah , they can well afford to and er # Exactly , exactly . # Yes , yes . # Yes . # Exactly yes . # Oh I see . # Will you really ? # Oh that's very good . # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Yes quite . # Yes , yes . # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Oh indeed , yes , yes of course . # Mm . # It must be quite a boring job though ? # Yes . # Yes . # Oh I know the multi-storey , yes . # Yes . # Yes , yes . # Oh do you really ? # Do you really ? # Oh I see . # Oh well yeah . # Ah . # Oh no I assumed it was just here and . # I see , yeah . # I see , yeah . # Mm . # Mm . # In circles . # Yes . # Yeah . # Oh yeah yeah . # Mm . # Mm . # That's reasonable . # Yeah , oh well # Yes . # Yes , quite , yeah . # No . # Oh no no no . # Mm . # Oh ! # Because # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Ah yeah . # And give a reasonable explanation or be pleasant about it and # Yeah . # Right . # Mm . # I think you'd get more than a t parking ticket looking at it for M O T wise if he get pulled . # Yes , exactly . # Yes . # Ha ! # Yes . # Yes exactly . # Right . # Can I borrow your writing device ? # Lovely , thank you . # Right , thank you . # Mm . # Mm . # Yeah . # Oh I see what you mean , yes . # Yeah yeah . # Mm . # Mm . # I think though this afternoon . # Big success , yeah . # I'll empty the pockets and then # Decisions . # Oh . . # Mm . # Er yes . # Well it's the only time we get chance to talk at the moment isn't it ? # Mm . # Well that's true , yes . # Yeah . # You could get twenty four hours continuously with Neville couldn't you ? # God strewth . # yourself . # What , what is this ? # No . # . Ooh . # Bring me thing with me . # Easily carry that . # No I don't think so . # No no . # It smells like burning . # Mattresses or blankets , the carpets # No . # I've not had a blow lamp going this morning at all . # It's probably come in with the door being open . # It may even be the school you know ? # Burning some rubbish in the er # in the incinerator thing they've got there . # Cor it really pongs doesn't it ? # Mm . # Many different types of smoke and pong . # Wood smoke , when you're camping is # it's , exactly . # Yeah yeah . # Oh yes . # Yeah , well it was worthwhile wasn't it ? # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # That's really org yeah . # Jolly good . # Mm . # No . # We went camping again ? # Well that's not very likely ! # No thank you . # I do . # I'm not gonna go . # Oh I see . # Yes . # No I know what you mean . # Yeah . # Yes I have a hazy recollection of that . # Mm . # Mm . # Yes . # Yeah . # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Seems an awful long time ago in some ways , you know , camping . # Yet other ways it doesn't Nina . # The erm difference in cer some things can seem a long time ago and some are relatively recent . # It doesn't really seem all that long since our lads in shorts , you know ? # And there they are thirty nine . # No no seriously # Oh I know . # Yeah . # Oh . # Which ones did you heave , by the way ? # Oh my god , yeah . # Well hang on , no . # You didn't put a definite no on economy seven did you ? # Oh well fair enough . # No I'm talking about economy seven in case you heave # any more # Mm . # She prefers er far prefers gas cooking I know , but # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Mhm . # Ah is that the one the Barratt type place ? # Yeah well # Yes . # Exactly , yes . # It's the same estate isn't it ? # It is yeah . # The same address , same area . # Yeah . # But there's quite a difference in price if you notice . # And thirty something for that . # Thirty seven I think it was , something like that . # Could be wrong . # This is this is , this is # Mhm . # I don't like either , to be honest with you , but there we are . # Well if you weigh that other one up the end one . # Yeah . # There wouldn't be room for the caravan to start with . # No I don't think so , no . # Yeah . # No . # I don't think there would be . # Mm . # Mm . # Full stop . # That'd be it . # Mm . # No room for a garage . # No parking a car is there ? # From what I can see of it . # Oh yeah . # It's erm important to remember by the way # Well some estates , not many of course , but some estates have got a no go area for caravans parked don't they ? # Mm . # I don't think we're likely to meet it here to be honest with you but yes you do get it . # Well I'm just saying I just said that we're not likely to get it here . # But erm it would be a damn sight safer down here wouldn't it ? # It wouldn't get vandalized , broken into scratched , bashed or whatever . # Tell me , the # Mm . # Go on . # Yeah I read it . # Yeah . # Mm . # Mm . # Depends what you mean by privacy of course , but go on . # Privacy or privacy as they seem to say these days , don't they , sometimes ? # carry on saying it whether it's right or wrong . # Same with controversy and controversy . # I know , I still . # It's a real controversy though . # Controversy . # God , you've got me at it . # You see ? # How easily you can change . # Good gracious me . # Did you notice this morning on the box , the er weather girl ? # She uses controversy and er # Our friend what's his name , Mike is it ? # Yes . # He did the accidental I'm sure , controversy . # Mm . # And she # Well it is for us because we've always been saying it . # But I don't see any reason why it should be easier . # Controversy , controversy . # It's just accent on the # Mm . # Fed up with plaster up me nose and # Oh strewth , yeah . # There's quite a lot of it to do yet . # Well we're it's it's the er first principles , prepare your surfaces isn't it ? # Which we're doing . # No . # But that's the mm . # Well we've finished the burning off in there . # Yeah so that's one pong gone . # Very largely gone . # It still lingers on a bit though . # There's not an awful lot more filling to do , but there is a bit of course . # I sincerely hope not . # No there's no more plastering . # No . # No . # Just filling now . # Imperfections you know ? # Joints and , stuff like that . # And that , it's a pity about that but I'm leaving the damn thing # Fancy putting boss white ? # Oh I know . # If it works leave it alone , but # erm on balance it's best left on and to just # Yes . # Oh yes . # I'd far sooner take it off and do a proper job but well # Well # Well that's a p yes exactly , yes . # Cos # and I've got to scrape out all that horrible boss white . # Cos it goes rock hard that stuff , over the years you know ? # Boss white . # Do you mean that's why they used boss white ? # Possibly . # Yeah . # Mm . # Oh quite , yes . # Mm . # Have you noticed that by and large , not all the time of course but I should say that eighty percent of the time birds face that way ? # Mm . # Cos see that pigeon is now . # In the tree , yeah . # Mm . # By far the majority of the time . # Oh god , yes . # Yes . # Mm . # Facing basically west , aren't they ? # Mm . # pardon ? # Yes . # Yeah . # Mm . # You don't often get one pigeon though do you ? # There's usually at least two of them . # Yeah , exactly . # Yeah . # Yes that was getting on my wick that door , yeah . # Mm . # I was bunged up before I started this . # bunged up now . # Well and the fact that it was just their garden , and as far as I can make out it was simply that garden , it would suggest that she's fallen out with some kids or something like that or somebody and yeah . # I mean why pick on one garden and systematically # I don't think they'd been actually taken from what I can gather . # They slashed them about , yes . # Cut them all . # Mm . # Oh according to Josie , I really don't know about all the cabbages , it might consist of one or two . # Funny business , yeah . # Mm . # Mm . # That's Yvonne's mother isn't it ? # Yeah . # Didn't Yvonne say she can be an awkward old devil ? # Mm . # So I sh # yes . # She's probably fallen out with some kid or other . # Oh no no no no no . # If there'd been a trail of destruction down the road , then fair enough , but # Mm . # Mm . # Well we think so . # Obviously there's others that don't think so , but not everybody thinks so . # Yes . # Yeah , yeah . # Oh true , true . # They're not an ug ugly thing . # Mm . # No . # No . # Oh yeah it's very small beer really isn't it ? # Compared to some of the dodges they get up to . # Mm . # Light ? # Er well no the , well at the front . # Other than that , over the door area somewhere , I don't know exactly . # I might stick it on a flying lead and wander around with it for a bit and see where it's best . # But I've got a rough idea where it'll go anyway . # of course is cable running to it providing it with power . # I'll probably run it from the garage . # About the easiest source . # Do you mean the return ? # If you come from the front of the house going towards the garage , that little bit there ? # There's two feet or something . # I am , yes . # Well what do you mean then , the corner ? # Yes , you mean literally on the corner ? # The apex of two # Well I'd have to make something to mount it on to go right on the corner but # No . # No . # No . # No . # It'll screw drive on to a flat surface . # Brickwork . # Yeah . # Certainly it will . # Yeah . # Mm . # Above a vandal . # Well so you've got to get up a ladder to get at it . # Er up a step ladder I mean , not a # I'd thought roughly speaking in that area , yes but # Ah well that would illuminate the er see if I put it fairly close to the actual corner at the front side , going down towards the garage . # Close to that corner , still lighting on the front face but # then a percentage of light will go round the corner . # Well cos lights don't go round corners but # No . # No that would throw the front door into shadow wouldn't it ? # Mm . # Mm like I say that would be mm . # Oh that way I can then get a decent cable run I think to the garage . # For feed , you know ? # Mm . # Well that's the easiest bit , . # To the circuit , yeah . # That is . # It will be helpful though , having a light there . # Because at night , you get a percentage a a # degree of light I should say from that street lighting , but not an awful lot . # Mm . # And for people coming in , going out for the step . # whatever , you know ? # Mm . # It'll be a quite sufficient spread to , to cope with the er entrance to the garage I mean , you know ? # Mm . # I still think two rows of erm pavers stones inbetween's the best bet for the front you know ? # To put there . # There's only one problem # Well the approach to the garage , yeah . # The drive . # Er yes . # Yes . # Exactly . # Yeah . # The usual thing , yeah . # You get a what ? # No , not if you put sodium chlorate down . # Nothing'll grow then . # Good grief . # If you what ? # Yeah . # Yeah . # Up the sides , yeah . # Yeah ? # No , well that doesn't really matter . # I mean the erm in fact , there's only one fairly tight path you can follow to get the car in . # Into the side . # If you think about it . # It'll be worth putting a couple of pavers on there just to cope with the track of the pa er the wheels going in . # Not necessarily , no . # No . # I don't mean put down like bloody tramlines . # A railway line in . # No no . # Actually it's quite attractive # that actually . # I was looking at it again this morning . # Yeah . # Ooh hark at her ! # Well they want stabilizing a bit yeah and er # Mm . # Mm . # Mhm . # Oh lifting them you mean ?you mean ? # Oh god . # Yes . # Yeah . # Well there was at the time obviously . # Cos do you remember there was that erm monstrous creation I should say erection ,erection for erm # The foundation , exactly . # I know , yeah . # No , I'm not with you . # Yes . # I'm with you now . # It's fairly deep eight inches down , the bricks ? # I know I went quite a way down . # I mean honestly you'd have thought they were building a ruddy house there wouldn't you ? # That's only er I don't know . # It's the same with the greenhouse # They'd have had a nine inch thick # erm solid concrete path in the centre . # Who the hell # wants that ? # In the middle of the co # er of the greenhouse . # Oh there ? # Yes , yes . # Well oh dear . # I've kept my eyes open when we're going through Harford # and there's no signs of work . # Mark you it wasn't a brilliant day was it ? # So # Yeah . # Yeah , oh yeah , yeah . # Cos those were definitely new ones , ready for placing in . # A , a pile of stones . # Oh yeah . # Well no . # No no , no . # No , straight to the tip . # That's not the tip . # Yeah . # That's not the tip . # You've never been to the tip . # I don't think , no you've not . # It's erm Tearscross way . # You know the quarry ? # Well the quarry area anyway , the same road . # You can approach it two ways . # From erm # No no no . # That's just bits they've had on various trucks . # Lorries and things . # No , no . # No no . # The tip is where I went . # The first time I went I followed the route recommended by Peter ? # Peter which on a map looks quicker but it isn't cos it's a winding # country road single track in a lot of directions . # Apparently yes . # No . # No they don't they just they stick them on to # Mm . # Mm . # Mm . # Yeah . # On indeed it would , yes . # It would . # Mm . # I'll be giving that mixer a caning this year though . # I hope to give the mixer a caning this year . # Yeah . # Mm . # Mm . # Oh yes , yes . # In some ways it is sensible , yes because you're carrying muck down . # Yeah . # I mean down , when we've done down here we've pu god been putting mats down and lord knows what to # oh yeah . # Mm . # But the erm ceiling rose and preferably the light switch could do with replacing . # Mm . # Well the , the lighting switch isn't so clever either . # And before I put too much back I want to have the floorboards up to clear #